In today’s crowded digital landscape, paid advertising can either be a powerful growth engine—or an expensive black hole that drains a startup’s resources. Few people understand this better than Anthony Chiaravallo, Founder and CEO of Vallo Media, a performance marketing agency that has helped everyone from startups to Fortune 500 brands like Nike, Amazon, and FedEx turn ad spend into measurable growth.
With over 16 years of experience and more than $100 million in media spend under his belt, Anthony is also a PR Week 40 Under 40 honoree and a frequent speaker at major events like SXSW and DigiDay. In his conversation on the Ignite Podcast, he shared how founders can stop wasting money, build sustainable growth systems, and prepare for the AI-powered future of marketing.
From Sales Calls to Building a Performance Marketing Agency
Anthony’s career didn’t start in marketing. He cut his teeth in high-volume sales during the pre-social media days, making 100+ outbound calls a day. Over time, he transitioned into digital sales and eventually into marketing leadership roles.
His big break came at WPP, one of the world’s largest agency networks, where he built a performance media practice working with some of the biggest global brands. But when COVID hit in 2020 and his role was eliminated during a restructuring, Anthony took the leap into entrepreneurship. With one client already on the side, he launched Vallo Media—and hasn’t looked back since.
What Startups Get Wrong About Paid Ads
One of Anthony’s key messages is that startups often waste money by spending without strategy.
Instead of just “throwing dollars at Google or Facebook ads,” he advises startups to:
Research their audience deeply: demographics, media habits, and pain points.
Build hypotheses: craft messages and campaigns based on data, not guesses.
Commit to testing: run experiments for at least 6–12 months rather than quick fixes.
Take a full-funnel approach: don’t just chase leads—build awareness, nurture relationships, and then drive conversions.
Too many founders skip this foundational work, focusing only on lead-gen campaigns, which results in inefficient spend and shallow customer engagement.
When to Invest in Performance Marketing
Anthony suggests startups should consider investing in paid media when they’ve plateaued with founder-led sales or exhausted their referral network. At that point, allocating $3,000–$5,000 per month to structured testing can help unlock scalable growth.
But he cautions against dipping toes in lightly. A few hundred dollars here and there won’t generate meaningful results. Instead, founders should commit to building a marketing flywheel—a system that warms up audiences, nurtures leads, and converts them over time.
Case Study: Playa Bowls $100M+ Growth Story
One of the most inspiring examples Anthony shared was his work with Playa Bowls, a quick-service restaurant that introduced acai bowls to the Jersey Shore.
Originally grown through Instagram buzz, Playa Bowls struggled to attract investors due to a lack of customer data. Anthony helped implement systems to capture emails, phone numbers, and customer insights, introduced local SEO strategies, and built automated engagement campaigns.
The results? Playa Bowls gathered hundreds of thousands of customer records, doubled their locations, secured major investment, and eventually scaled to over 150 locations nationwide—ultimately selling for more than $100 million.
Metrics That Actually Matter
A recurring theme in Anthony’s philosophy is quality over quantity. He warns against chasing vanity metrics like impressions and clicks, which often include bot traffic or unqualified users.
Instead, startups should focus on:
Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC)
Lifetime Value (LTV)
Return on Ad Spend (ROAS)
Behavioral Conversions (e.g., time spent on site, multiple pages viewed)
These KPIs allow brands to optimize campaigns toward real business outcomes rather than inflated numbers.
The Role of AI in Performance Marketing
AI is rapidly transforming the media landscape, and Anthony’s agency has been using AI since day one. From generating ad copy and conducting SEO research to optimizing campaigns with tools like Google’s Performance Max, AI enables marketers to scale faster and smarter.
Looking ahead, Anthony believes AI-driven search will become the future of discovery. Instead of consumers going directly to Google, AI assistants may research, compare, and even purchase on their behalf—meaning brands must optimize their content and presence to be surfaced by these new digital intermediaries.
Balancing the Art and Science of Marketing
While data and algorithms are critical, Anthony emphasizes that marketing is also an art form. The most successful brands are those that:
Tell compelling founder or product stories.
Build emotional connections with their audience.
Deliver unique creative content that algorithms alone can’t replicate.
As he puts it, “If every brand just follows the data, they’ll all end up with the same ad.”
Key Takeaways for Founders
Don’t rush into paid ads—do your homework and commit to a long-term strategy.
Focus on quality, not vanity—optimize for CAC, LTV, and behavioral signals.
Think full-funnel—educate, nurture, and then convert.
Leverage AI smartly—use it to scale, but don’t outsource all creativity.
Start small, scale slowly—increase spend only when ROI is proven.
Final Thoughts
Performance marketing is more than running ads—it’s about building systems that turn marketing dollars into measurable growth. As Anthony Chiaravallo’s story shows, combining strategic rigor with creative storytelling can unlock massive opportunities for both startups and established brands.
If you’re a founder or marketer wondering when to turn on paid media—or how to stop wasting money on ineffective campaigns—Anthony’s insights are a must-listen.
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Chapters:
00:00 – Anthony’s background: from sales to launching Vallo Media
01:24 – Breaking into digital marketing and moving from sales to strategy
03:20 – From big agencies to starting his own firm during COVID
05:30 – The freedom and growth potential of entrepreneurship
06:43 – Defining performance marketing and why it still matters today
07:52 – The biggest mistakes startups make with paid ads
10:31 – When startups should turn on performance marketing
12:39 – Why outsourcing to experts often saves time and money
14:20 – Case study: scaling Playa Bowls from a sidewalk stand to a $100M+ acquisition
20:58 – Why clicks and impressions don’t equal results
22:29 – KPIs that actually matter for growth
25:59 – How to know when to scale or move on from a channel
28:03 – Best starter channels and the rise of AI-driven discovery
30:48 – How AI is reshaping paid media campaigns
34:07 – The future of search with ChatGPT, Gemini, and AI assistants
37:15 – The importance of creative in performance marketing
41:46 – Why you should start at the top of the funnel
43:40 – Balancing the art and science of marketing
45:45 – The most frustrating performance marketing myth
47:11 – The most misunderstood part of campaign attribution
49:48 – The future of paid media in the next 3–5 years
52:36 – Rapid fire wrap-up: metrics to kill, favorite brands, overrated platforms, and more
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